Like the .270 Weatherby Magnum—released 60 years prior to the .270 WSM—it betters the velocity of the .270 Winchester, but I’m not certain that the increased velocity is necessarily required. Generally speaking, the higher the muzzle energy, the higher the stopping power. Bottom line for me: If the OP's rifle in 270 WSM is a shooter, then he need look no further. In the WSM .270 fans found a short, powerful, efficient round that could be housed in compact, lightweight short-action rifles and which edged closer to 7mm Rem. The 300 WSM with the 210 drops below the required minimum velocity at around 700 yds. Does this sacrifice distance or accuracy? For the 300 WSM with the 210 Berger to equal the external ballistics, it needs to have a minimum muzzle velocity of at least 3,100+ fps. Both are great options, but if you have the ability to build a great gun for deer AND larger animals, Go with the .30 and do not limit yourself. In another 20 years the 300 WSM will surpass the 300 Win Mag in sales, maybe sooner. Both have been popular from their inceptions. Personally, I love the CRF Actions ... grew up on Mausers, and the M70 was the next step in that line. Matrix in .277 caliber has a .65 BC. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum vs .300 Winchester Magnum ammo rounds. Absolutely. The 7mm Remington mag is well established but not so versatile as the .30-06. Matrix from the 270 WSM still has enough velocity to open up and kill game at 1,000 yds. There are less 'smiths who take the time and money to make a jig for the Winchester, but it is a heck of an action. Matrix @ 3,100 fps still has a velocity of 1,800 fps and 1,181 ft/lbs of energy. A little research reveals that most commercial bullets on the market today need a minimum of 1,800 fps in order to 'open up'. 3. Hunting, fishing, back packing and family. With the whims of the marketplace it may or may not stay readily available. So can 7mm RM cases. For good measure, run a 7mm Rem Mag with a 180 gr, Berger. Berger VLD @ 2,900 fps has a velocity of 1.621 fps and 1,225 ft/lbs of energy. If you do, they recommend a 1-8 twist barrel which is probably only achievable with a custom barrel. October 28, 2013 Neither the 300 Win Mag nor the 300 WSM can begin to achieve those velocities. 3. So I have been looking through the interwebs trying to find negatives and positives of both calibers. ballistics. Winchesters are great guns, don't let anyone tell you different. The 7mm WSM was tested for a time among target shooters worldwide. How accurate are your 270 & 300 WSMs? 6.5 wsm would be very cool too, though harder on the barrel I think. Yes the 30 cal delivers a little more energy. We offer cheap ammo and bulk ammo deals on the most popular ammo calibers. Matrix in .277 cal will tip the scales yet again in favor of the 270 WSM. I just received in trade yesterday a M70 in 300wsm. You will be launching a lighter bullet so shot placement will become more critical, but getting the bullet there is still job #1. to 230 gr. 2. Even then you could sell one and have a smith build you a semi custom off the one you keep. And I wouldn't shorten the barrel of either caliber, they both need at least 24 in. bullet. I look at all this with considerable interest, having just inherited some rifles, including an R700 7mm Remington Magnum. The 270 wsm is a fast flat shooting round that will perform great at long range. But you can still find plenty of stocks, triggers, etc. Your 300 WSM will hit harder, but it will not buck the wind as well - and beyond 400 - 500 yds. Why would you rule out the 270 WSM for long range?? The main use for the 270 wsm case in the F Class seen is to neck up the 270 wsm case to 7mm, So you would have a 7/270case NOT a 7mmwsm. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, sell both and get a sendero. One way to think about this is as such: a foot-pound is a unit of energy equal to the amount of energy required to raise a weight of one pound a distance of one foot. I won't comment on that one way or the other. Find a ballistic calculator: http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/ballistics-programs-web-based-downloadable-9647/. in bullet weight on the heavy side, and in … I can not say I know anyone who shoots the 175 matrix out of a .277. I do have reloading capabilities. If you were limited to factory ammo I would probably say go for the 270 WSM because the 7mm WSM didn't seem to catch on as well as the 270 and 300 WSMs, and I don't think factory ammo is as readily available as it is for the 270 WSM. and run both the 270 WSM with the 165 gr. As far as wind drift goes, they are both going to be pretty close depending on how the comparison goes. Winchester M70 270wsm VS 300wsm: Conflicted and need insight. It's defeating to purpose. The 300 WSM with the 180 drops below the required minimum velocity at 800 yds. The main reason people build on the Remington and Savage Actions is that they are tubular, and therefore easier to chuck up on a lathe. I'm shooting a 130 grain accu bond out of my 270 WSM and it's trajectory and velocities are way better than my 300 WM with a 165 grain Sierra game king. In the 270 wsm you are burning a bunch of powder in expensive brass to push a bullet out at high velocity to have the bullet just dump it all quick. IMO the 270 wsm offers you nothing in the performance potential department compared to a 7mm mag. For more detailed ballistics information please refer to the exact round in question or contact the manufacturer for the pertinent information. In shorter barrels, performance declines dramatically. With 150gr bullets the 7mm wsm and 270wsm are going to be identical in terms of power at the muzzle; however the 270 bullet will most likely have a higher B.C. True .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum and 7mm-08 Remington ballistics information can vary widely from the displayed information, and it is important to understand that the particular characteristics of a given round can make a substantive difference in its true performance. Go to any major ammunition company's page and compare energy's. And also assuming this one bullet shoots good out of his gun... Look at more practical yardages like 500 yards, the 300wsm using your info has 200 more FT/lbs of energy. 4. Due to the shoulder safety design, the neck is very short. On average you’ll need a heavier 7mm bullet which will produce more recoil IN AN ULTRALIGHT rifle like the one I’m putting together for this project. rifles. In all my research, only the 300 RUM has enough powder to move 210 gr. It is more available than the .270 Weatherby Magnum has ever been. You can compensate for a bullet with a lower BC by launching it at a higher velocity. However, if the WSMs are loaded properly they will more than do the job but ya gotta put some powder in 'em. Before the .270 WSM, the most notable cartridge with performance exceeding that of the .270 Winchester, in the .277 bore size, was the .270 Weatherby Magnum. deserttacoma84, July 14, 2014 in Long Range Shooting. The only way to get those velocities is to launch it from a 300 RUM. Plus, the .270 WSM could poach from an already extensive lineup of .277 bullets designed for the .270 Win. Not necessarilly stay with what he's got. Retained energy at longer yardage always favors the heavier bullet. 6. We spend hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars trying to improve the accuracy of our LR rifles. 2. So my questions are as follows.. 1. If it were me, I'd sell both of the m70's and pick up a savage weather warrior model 16. I have yet to find a bullet with a combo of BC and velocity shot from a 300 WSM that comes close to what the magnums in 6.5, .277 or 7mm can do. Please email us if you have questions about any of our product listings. The 7mm WSM is similar to the .300 WSM with the case necked down to handle .284" bullets. Superior ballistics and enough weight and velocity to take anything in the 48 states. For two different caliber bullets to have roughly the same external ballistics, they must both have the same BC and be launched at the same velocity. Bartlain, Krieger, etc) and a new trigger on a tuned up Winchester action. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum vs 7mm-08 Remington ammo rounds. Lbs.) It requires 5.9 MOA correction in a 10 mph wind. out there. that is why I went with the lighter 270 in 130. both national and international. Certainly there is more aftermarket support for the Remy and it's clones ... but why be like all the other guys/gals??? I think you can get 160gr Nosler partitions in 270 WSM as well. bullet and the 300 WSM with any bullet you choose. The 7mm WSM d… Assuming both rifles are accurate, I would tend to lean towards the 270 WSM. They will still punch holes in paper beyond that, but terminal ballistics becomes very questionable. The Win model 70 is a great action. I reload 140 gr accubonds and I would use them on any critter from antelope to moose. Superior ballistics and enough weight and velocity to take anything in the 48 states. Shortening the barrel to 20" will affect the velocity (negatively) and thus the range. That's plausible. Again ... a lot of it is due to more 'smiths focusing on the tubular actions due to the ease of working on them. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or jacketing type. .07 difference in bore and 15 grs. For a truly long range round you can rule out the 270 unless you are using the Matrix 165 gr. Firearms, Long Range Shooting, and Reloading. Nosler recommends for the accu bonds best performance that velocity be over 1800 FPS. Do I sell both and buy a Remington? So a .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 3170 pounds through a one foot distance, while a 7mm-08 Remington round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 2450 pounds over the same one foot distance. 1000 yds? The 300 Win Mag and 300 WSM can get close with a 210 Berger, but the 7mm still outshines to 30's. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. 30-06 will also work well if elk is in the mix. In my opinion, one of the drawbacks of all three of the .270s is their twist rate. I want a 270wsm but if I had to pick would go with the 300. Performance I am not a .270 Win fan, but I like my .270 WSM over the 300 WSM. On the other hand, the Winchester Short Magnum cartridge does not have a gigantic advantage in either category either and there’s actually a smaller difference in the ballistics of the 7mm WSM vs 7mm Rem Mag than there is with the 270 WSM vs 270 Winchester. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufact In the same is true for the WSM. Can't answer all your questions - but I would say the 300 WSM is a better all around round than the .270 WSM just because you can load it heavier. The only reason to even look at a Rem 700 over other actions is the aftermarket parts. is by reloading a few bullets. But this doesn't tell the whole story. Cartridge Type: Rifle Height: 2.1" Width: 0.535" Average FPS: 3134 Average Energy: 3314 Average Gr: 152 Recoil: 2.06 Power Rank: 4.76 of 20 The 7mm Winchester Short Magnum (WSM) was designed in 2001 by Winchester Repeating Arms Company and Browning Arms Company. But if you are doing a custom build, you could repipe it for 7mm, which is a heck of a round for BC. The 270 WSM seems popular as there was no significant 270 mag. To each his own, but the only way a 270wsm keeps up with the 300wsm in the energy dept. The decision for which round is better for a given application should be made with complete information, and this article simply serves as a comparative guide, not the final say. Please click the above links to take a look at all of the .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum and 7mm-08 Remington ammo we have in stock and ready to ship, and let us know any parting thoughts in the comment section below. Probably less these days than in the past, but they had their following. Assuming he has a 1-9 twist barrel( recommended by matrix for the 165), which he doesn't. Ballistics Comparison for 270 While this should not be the deciding factor, simply stepping up to the 175 gr. Do people use the M70 to build lightweight/longrange builds. Generally speaking, the higher the muzzle energy, the higher the stopping power. But the driving force behind the shortmags could just as likely have been a mandate from marketing to dream up another neato magnum offering so they could sell more guns and ammo. It will still have plenty of energy for mule deer and is why thousands of hunters use the 270 Win and 270 WSM. More components, more load recipes, and the ability to shoot a big old bullet if you decide you have the need. Comments have to be approved before showing up, © 2021 Foundry Outdoors - All Rights Reserved, Product successfully added to your Shopping Cart, 223 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 243 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 25 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 300 RSAUM Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum Ammo, 7mm RSAUM Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum Ammo, .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum vs 7mm-08 Remington Ammo Comparison - Ballistics Info & Chart. As sjvcon mentioned, plenty of good charts out there. I would not shorten the barrel to 20". It requires only 5.2 MOA correction in a 10 mph wind. While I would be inclined to keep both, I am leaning towards selling one to fund the others build. The 165 gr. We offer a 100% Authenticity Guarantee on all products sold on our website. 5. That is just a matter of retained energy ... check out the charts. BTW the 270 WSM vs. the 7mm WSM, is about as valid and arguement but even less so! Obviously if you compare a 165 .277 cal and a 165 .308 cal, the .277 has a better BC. Bottom line for me: If the OP's rifle in 270 WSM is a shooter, then he need look no further. ; and (2) At what distance does the bullet drop below the magical 1,800 fps? But again, pick any bullet at max velocity from either a 300 Win Mag or 300 WSM and run it through a ballistics calculator. The 270 WSM has the power to take down an elk at 800 yds. Down range a 7-08 is right with that 270 wsm. Not sure where the 7mm is headed, although it is probably the best of the WSM's at least on paper. The 7mm WSM is going to have a tough time of it as the 7mm RM is established. both the 7mm wsm and the 300 wsm have won a lot of long range competitions. The 270 wsm and the 300wsm are the same case size just differing bullet size necks (the 300wsm case is also used necking down to 7/300wsm round same as 7/270wsm). 5. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif. Perhaps you … Glitzy velocities don't mean much, and you have a great choice among 7mm bullets. Both the 270 WSM and the 7mm Mag will outperform anything the 300 WSM can spit out. AT 800 yards, the 130 is right around 1900 FPS. The .270 WSM is my 2 of my 3 sons' favorite but my oldest and I prefer the .300. ( seems like this is an oxymoron), 6. By David E. Petzal. Not saying the .270 WSM is a 'wrong' choice, just not what I would chose if doing it again. Between the .270 and the .308, I'd lean toward the later. atleast you have the option of going heavy for larger game on bullets. With the proper barrel and scope it has excellent longer range potential. The 300 WSM running the 180 gr. This question came from R. Peterson, and was intended for my new column, but I couldn't resist, so here goes: Is there any reason, Mr. Peterson asks, to choose a standard .270 over a .270 WSM? I'd also go with the 7mm. That is to say, .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum bullets travel 3.7 times the speed of a 737 airplane at cruising speed, while 7mm-08 Remington bullets travel 3.2 times that same speed. From muzzle to 1000 yards, the 300wsm has more energy. Rifle Specs listed below... Congratulation Michael Langston on yet another successful Milk Jug Challenge. IMHO you can do that if you want an inferior rifle . The 7mm WSM and 7mm Remington Magnum are best suited for the exact same hunting situations. Shooting 270 WSM and 7 Rem Mag edit b 1_2-18-2016 Vito Monopoli. For Deer (mulies and coues)/ Elk and maybe one day getting to Alaska for a caribou hunt, which caliber would be the best for all around? The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum vs 7mm-08 Remington ammo rounds. Bottom line is that the longer the barrel (to a point) the more complete powder burn you get ... so the more energy is imparted on the bullet. Having said that, the reason guys shoot 30's is the option to shoot a heavy bullet that bucks the wind and delivers good energy. However, the distance from the case head to the datum line on the shoulder is longer for the 7WSM, preventing accidental chambering or firing of the .284" 7mm bullet in .270 WSM's .277" bore. At 800 yards, I would definitely side with the .308 over the .270. Commercially available ammo suggests the 300 WSM has more options with better ballistics. Or shoot a 10 shot group at an 800 yard target and see what the groups look like. Again ... all just my opinion. Be careful about sizing up 270 WSM's to make 7mm WSM brass as the 7mm's headspace is longer. it is all about the wind. As such, the following is for comparative information purposes only and should not be used to make precise predictions of the trajectory, performance, or true ballistics of any particular .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum or 7mm-08 Remington rounds for hunting, target shooting, plinking, or any other usage. For moose you may want to look at 150 or even 160 gr. It is 1-10. Are both calibers capable of reaching 800+ yards and making an ethical kill? VLD with a .63 BC. You may be surprised by the results. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif And they don't have a belt. 1. Especially if you do not reload. We have a variety of deals on Rifle Ammo, Handgun Ammo, Shotgun Ammo & Rimfire Ammo, as well as ammo for target practice, plinking, hunting, or shooting competitions. Would it be worth the effort to change the stock to a B&C Medalist Stock and perhaps look to shortening the barrel to 20"? To put this into perspective, a Boeing 737 commercial airliner travels at a cruising speed of 600 mph, or 880 fps. Matrix at 3,100 fps. Both of these cartridges can be used for the same shooting applications and we think that whichever you go with, maybe even both, you are going to be happy with your choice. That being the case, I'd recommend a new stock, new barrel (Brux. Lol. Furthermore, the muzzle energy of a .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum round averages out to 3170 ft-lb, while a 7mm-08 Remington round averages out to about 2450 ft-lb. The end result is the same. do you reload? Just not in that order! Uh ... heck yes. Both weight and design are taken into account with the ballistic coefficient (BC) of a bullet. Cases extracted from my 7mm RM have a tiny scratch on them, making it easy to count how many times they've been chambered. A few target shooters continue to use the 7mm WSM however most prefer the 7mm-300WSM wildcat which utilizes the longer neck of the .300 WSM case design. The 300 WSM will hit harder, but lots of men have been taking elk with a regular Win 270 for years. The 7mm WSM provides a little more energy down range with ballistics very close to the 270 WSM. Hunting, fishing, Hunting, weight lifting, martial arts, Hunting, archery, long range shooting, hunting, anything outdoors. It has a rebated rim, bottleneck casing with a 1:9.5 twist on a large rifle magnum primer. I can usually find 300 and 270 WSM ammo at any store here in SC AK, but I can't say the same thing about 7mm WSM. for the Win. projectiles fast enough to match the ballistics of the 7mm Rem Mag. Sounded to me like he wants to "build" one of these (or another action) up. Matrix VLD (it's not listed on their website, so you need to ask for it). Terminal ballistics need to be addressed as well. Since the OP said he doesn't reload, and could if he had too, suggests he is not wanting to reload unless he has to. Mag. Mag. The 165 gr. The .300 WSM has been quite successful and .270 WSM reasonably so, while the 7mm and .325 WSMs never caught on in the marketplace and today they languish on life support. That is the maximum effective range for these combos. Combat Hapkido, Karate, Boxing, Weight Lifting, Shooting, Hunting, Tinkering with Guns, Fishing, Etc. It's easy! Loading ... 7mm Rem Mag vs buck/ Roebuck hunting 2017/ Bockjagd 2017 - Duration: 7:15. Bottom line...Winchester is a fine action to build on IMHO. Here are some quick examples that I ran for each combo showing results at 1,000 yards: The 270 WSM running the 165 gr. I'd look to chamber in 7 wsm, because the .284 has some great characteristics. The WSM chamberings are proving to be slightly more accurate as well. By The .270 WSM is a good cartridge but, honestly, it is a very small player in terms of market share. As illustrated in the chart, .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum rounds - on average - achieve a velocity of about 3240 feet per second (fps) while 7mm-08 Remington rounds travel at a velocity of 2830 fps. Will the 270WSM do fine? Re: 7mm mag vs 7mm wsm ?? It requires 6.6 MOA correction in a 10 mph wind. That is affected by the bullet used (grains, BC, etc.). The closest a 30 cal bullet can come to this BC is the Berger 210 gr. I have both, and reload for them and really like them both, but if I had to choose one, it would be the 300. Yes the 270 WSM will kill moose dead. Comments, opinions and insight please and thank you. I personally love Winchesters ... specifically the CRF types that were called Classic and are now the ones produced by FN. Loss is variable, but on the order of 50 fps per inch I think is what I have heard. I currently own a M70 in 270wsm which I am very pleased with. Federal premium and Winchester supreme both make factory rounds like my homemades with accubonds in 140. Comparing the .270 with the 7mm Remington magnum is like comparing grits and white cornmeal. From the data we have looked at in the 7mm-08 vs .270 comparison, we feel pretty confident in stating that these cartridges can do what they were designed for. I hate belted cases, and I own a 270 WSM, but I'd recommend the 7mm Remington Magnum anyway, unless there's some reason not to. The 7mm WSM provides a little more energy down range with ballistics very close to the 270 WSM. Here is a link to an article written by Bryan Litz of Berger Bullets that addresses your problem in greater detail: http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/30-caliber-1.php. Is the M70 action worthy of building on? If your goal is to find better access to ammo, I would definitely go with the 270wsm. If you handload, you can get load your 280 to within 75-100 fps or so of the 7mm WSM. Foundry Outdoors is your trusted home for buying archery, camping, fishing, hunting, shooting sports, and outdoor gear online. Might be wrong on that. You need to long-throat (single-feed) both the 7 and the 300 WSMs. A decently hand loaded 270 Win will out do R-P and Norma 7MM Mag rounds. WaffenlandTV 42,763 views. The difference in energy delivered at 1,000 yds is negligible at best. Look at downrange energy of the 2 at longer ranges. SAUM vs WSM. Caliber: Bullet Weight: Overall Cartridge Length: Muzzle Velocity: Trajectory at 300 yds(100yds zero) Muzzle Energy(Ft. Berger VLD @ 3,050 fps has a velocity of 1,572 fps and 988 ft/lbs of energy. Being a handloader gives you a lot more bullet weight selections for the 7mm than for the 270. As far as LR capabilities go for a given caliber, the two things I look at are: (1) How much wind deflection is there for this load at 600, 800. The 270 WSM should be able to run the 165 gr. 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