Anyone have experience with 180 or 200 grain Accubonds? Big-game cartridges in .338 caliber have become popular, including the (1) .338 Winchester Magnum, (2) .340 Weatherby Magnum, (3) .338 Remington Ultra Mag, (4) .338 Lapua and (5) .33 Nosler. They have ethically killed every animal I have shot at. So the follower I have from my 300 WM will work then. Rebating the rim to 0.534 inch simplifies the production of rifle bolts since the rims of Holland & Holland-style belted magnums, such as the 7mm Remington and.300 Winchester, are the same diameter. I think the newer TTSX has more advantages. It’s a 26” 1:10 twist barrel. He traveled about 20 yards, pleased me as do Partition in 180g. Ha I had a friend who used the factory 220gr Corlokts on Tx deer/hogs in his 30-06. Barrel it and see if it will work then if not modify the feed rails. I had two 7RM 700 BDLs converted to 26 Nosler, one for me, one for my hunting bud. If you have a chance to hunt hogs, they are a great "bullet tester", ha, much cheaper/ more prolific to hunt/shoot than elk/moose/bear. Both are very similar in cost and performance just wondered what everyone else's thoughts were. 7mm vs 300 win vs 28 nosler. He killed a big cow a tad over 440yds with it, blew chunks out the other side, he said. In 2007, my son, son in law and I had 3, 300 win mags built. Yep. I took rough measurements of both the 300 Win Mag and the 30 Nosler with the very popular 215 Berger hybrid. I've killed everything from elk to turkeys with a 180grn Interlock flying out of a 300WM. With full power factory loads or … DF The new Enduron 8133 powder will be available in 1-lb and 8-lb canisters starting in February 2018. the Monos are long, but many heavier c&c bullets are too, and they "do" recoil more. The 30 Nosler blows past the highly regarded 300 Winchester Magnum—eclipsing the round in all three testing categories. Both cases were new unfired. Together we broke the barrels in and then developed a load. The 7mm Remington Ultra Mag uses a larger capacity case and, loaded to the same MAP, has the potential to outperform the .28 Nosler, although not by a lot. My response to many of these posts is that I usually go back to whichever bullet shoots best in. In this comparison I review ballistics data for the 28 Nosler and the 7mm Rem Magnum. 28 nosler burning upwards of 85gr of powder va 300 win burning roughly 77gr of powder. No feeding/modifications to the action and cheaper brass to boot. RDFinn OP. If you already have the action, as in a shot out 7RM, .300WM, etc., it's less expensive to add a $600 premium barrel than buy a Nosler rifle. Its a good looking bullet. Working up a load for my 300 win mag. Of the cup and core, the Sierra Pro Hunter 180 and Speer Hot Cor 180 do very well, but even better ( based on my use in 30-06 and 30-06 Improved) are the Sierra 200 GK SBT and the Speer 200 Hot Cor. Sounds like a lot of work and a PITA. I have more experience with the older Barnes 180 XBT from a 300 Win Mag. Violate this principle by, for example, chambering a lightweight, short action rifle for a powerful Magnum cartridge like the .300 WSM and the result will be a dramatic increase in kick. I seriously doubt you could realistically judge the difference in barrel life between the three so it … Its a good looking bullet. Password. Worth playing with! The problem come's in that with those heavy bullet's rcoil also goes up but that's the price yu pay. The 300 Win Mag’s short case neck is not detrimental to accuracy, and it is actually capable of near bench-rest like groups with the proper load in a high quality rifle. Some do like the very fast speeds, but really, anything over 3000fps....doubtful any of us could tell any difference, ha. magnum cartridges and bullets of similar weight. Happy with it so far on a handful of animals I have taken. Posts: 18,453. I liked the "point and shoot", thread the needle ( through a hole in the puckerbrush if you would) type shooting that I did. 7mm Magnum Showdown: 7mm Rem. You are using an out of date browser. Very few folks realize that out around 350-400 it starts overtaking the 180. 2950fps with R23 shot like a varmint rifle, the 200 NAB would be swell too. Like the 7mm STW and 7mm RUM, the .28 Nosler is seriously over-bore. However, if they hold up well on a big hog, from near and far, they will work fine on anything bigger critter! RDFinn. For the 300 win the only new case I had was a Lapua head stamp. Load a 175-grain bullet atop 92 grains of Retumbo in the 7mm RUM and, according to “Nosler Reloading Guide 7,” you should get a … Try either H4831 or H1000 for either bullet pick the one that shoots best and run with it... U really cant go wrong with either...…. A 30-06 will handle a 180gr bullet very well, in my 30-06 it's my bullet of choice. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and … If it is a Premium, its sixes for me. Location. The above 26 Nosler, similar set up for a 28 Nosler, set me back around $1,400. The.28 Nosler is a shortened version of the 7mm Remington Ultra Mag. I think any High Velocity round needs these kinds of bullets. And because the 30 Nosler has a belt-less case, it’s more accurate and makes for easier reloading. I loaded the 200 NAB over a wad of Retumbo for a 300 RUM, gift for my SIL. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. out of an unbelted case, and fits into .30-’06 Sprg.-length actions. What changes will I need to my Remington 700 action to make it feed/function correctly ? I know every barrel is different but with dumb luck, it worked in mine. I … Geez....I guess it IS easier and cheaper to get a Rem 700 in 7RM and punch it to Mashburn. Username. That .338 cal 180 made a wound channel that looked like every Partition result I had ever seen. There's plenty enough energy in that 180grn AB for whatever you want to shoot. I liked the Nosler 115 PT minimum for a 257 Wby and later the 100 TSX best. ... With that being said, 7mag, 30-06 and 300 win mag are just as effective with a lot less recoil. My profile picture shows an AB I recovered this past fall. I recently worked up a load in 300WM with the 200 Partition. Switched to E-tip 180s. If deformation of the lead nose in the magazine box is a problem, our 180 grain Protected Point Partition or AccuBond bullets are good options. They were Remington 700 actions with 26" Lilja 1:10 barrels and McMillian stocks. We have updated our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy as of May 5th, 2020. I know I have used some very light (but stout) bullets for big game and I always zeroed them about 1" high at 100. The 7mm shoots .284-inch diameter bullets through bores .28-inch across, but only two use this Imperial measuring system in their titles: .280 Remington and .284 Winchester, both excellent but under-rated “standard” velocity cartridges. In the 30-06, I always liked (for deer) the 125-150 c&c and the 168TSX for a Mono, but then, I just "have" to try and get good loads with 200gr C&C, PT, even the Woodleigh 30-06 rated 240gr. Nosler rifle in 28 Nosler for $1799 at the Scheels store in Lincoln. Both the .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM are rated at 65,000 psi maximum pressure, same as the .22-250 Rem. They're both moose medicine. Compare these rounds in the charts below. It drove the .300 Holland & Holland completely out of the lime … I loaded the 200 NAB over a wad of Retumbo for a 300 RUM, gift for my SIL. So, "if" your rifle likes it, it will hold up just fine in your 300 WM. Bernardsville, NJ. Bernardsville, NJ. Mag. The author analyzed six .30 caliber magnum cartridges (.300 H&H Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum, .300 Weatherby, .300 Remington Ultra Mag., .30 Nosler, and .30-378 Weatherby) for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. The .300 Winchester Magnum—that belted affair based on a shortened Holland and Holland case—was released in 1963 as the last in a quartet of cartridges that redefined magnum performance to the masses. Joined: Jan 2006. Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. My SIL used the same bullet in my 338 Federal for a close up shot on a mule deer. Not too light, but a 180 mono in a 300 Mag is flat shooting, hits hard, and likely to completely penetrate the marjority of shots! These 700s required a fair amount of action work to feed the Nosler round, including a RUM mag box with "windows" for the fatter round. I have to reiterate though that I don't shoot past 375 or so. Even the older 220 cup n core "can" come apart from a 300 Mag up close. IIRC, this is the flour and sugar for a Kimber Classic safe resident. #10676504 11/07/15: Joined: Jan 2006. Posts: 18,453. Go figure. Even at 250yds, thats still humming and it did swell! Rarely had to follow up with a 2nd shot! They share a maximum body diameter of 0.550 inch. A gunsmith friend of mine who reloaded a bunch said for some reason, that load worked in a lot of guns. 30 Nosler vs. 300 Win Mag. Nosler Trophy Grade Long Range 300 WSM (Winchester Short Mag) 190gr Accubond LR Rifle Ammo - 20 Rounds $69.99 ($3.50/round) Buy Online Pick-Up In-Store Only Limit 2 The 30 Nosler cartridge delivers better ballistics than the .300 Win. 180 AB with 75.0g RL-22 has worked wonders in 2 separate 300WM for me. I like to work up a good load with the mono I like ( and weight I want) say 150 TTSX/175LRX for a 300WM and then I work up a good load with the 200 Noslers or similar. Just because it can be done does not mean it makes sense, despite what you might read in advertising copy. A 300 or 325 WSM (Winchester short magnum brass) necked up to .338 will give velocities on par with what the new 33 Nosler does with even lesser amounts of powder and all while seating the bullet correctly in the case for maximum accuracy while keeping the OAL of the loaded round to 3.340″ (like the Noslers). It will also handle 200gr bullet's but I don't think as ell as the 300 magnums. I had read years ago and believe to this day that the beauty of a magnum is it handles heavy for cartridge bullet's better than standard bullet's. When shot from an 8 lb rifle, the 28 Nosler creates 33 foot-pounds of recoil. You must log in or register to reply here. I second the opinion in finding which one the gun likes and how much room you have in the magazine to handle the longer heavier bullets. Topped with a 3-10X 40 mm Nightforce SHV riflescope, a Nosler Model 48 Patriot rifle chambered in .28 Nosler is capable of taking most of the worlds big gamewith real long-range advantages in trajectory and wind drift when compared to others using .30-cal. Compare these rounds in the charts below. He killed a big cow a tad over 440yds with it, blew chunks out the other side, he said. I like the Mid to Heavy "conventional" bullets also, because they work pretty well. Thinking about either the Christensen arms ridgeline 28 nosler or weatherby weathermark lt in 300 wby mag. With the .404 Jeffery providing the parent case, the 27 Nosler outdoes the capacity of the iconic .270 Winchester by 42 percent, the .270 WSM by 25 percent and the .270 Weatherby by 12.5 percent. No meat damage. By logging into your account, ... the WSM is much more efficient than the 300 Win Mag, 61 grains of H4350 will push a 210 VLD Berger 2860fps, the win mag will take almost 10 more grains of powder to get the same velocity. JavaScript is disabled. This new powder is designed for large, magnum cartridges, such as .300 Win Magnum, .300 Remington Ultra Magnum, and 28 Nosler, among others. With somewhere near .200” of freebore, the 300 Win mag is going to use 75-78 grains of H1000 most of the time, compared to 83-85 grains in the 30 Nosler with the PRC in the middle. I have a Remington 700 in 300 WM that I might rebarrel to 28 Nosler. I'd probably just keep shooting my 7mm Remington with a long throat. I shoot a 200 AB in my .300 Win with H4831sc. I felt from the beginning that we would end up with the 180 grain AB as our final choice. and .300 Win. Here are some measurements and comments about the 300 Win vs the 30 Nos. I shot a heavy Aoudad sheep at 250 or so, and he made one hop and was done. In rifles of same build weight, same brake and everything else same the 215 vs 195 recoil wise is not a noticeable difference! OP. Mag box, follower ? Finally time to do some reloading for my Savage Model 110 Long Range Hunter in 300 WSM. Cartridge : .300 Win. The 28 Nosler should be about the same. I have a Remington 700 in 300 WM that I might rebarrel to 28 Nosler. That is what I did. Why not just buy a Nosler rifle? I have more experience with the older Barnes 180 XBT from a 300 Win Mag. It gave the same result. The bolt face was OK. 300 PRC vs 300 Win Mag. It bettered the velocity of the benchmark .30-06 Springfield by over 200 fps, yet could fit in a standard long action. Campfire Kahuna. Nosler ABLR vs Hornady ELDx vs Federal Terminal Ascent reviews/experience? The 30 Nosler blows past the highly regarded 300 Winchester Magnum—eclipsing the round in all three testing categories. Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Mag. However, the lighter weight monos just change the whole paradigm, IMHO. It actually produces twice the recoil as the smaller 6.5 Creedmoor (see comparison below). But I doubt the folks who use the lighter bullets are being recoil conscious, ha. I have no experience with a 300 mag but have a thought on bullet's for cartridges anyway. I wouldn't know where to even start for a 800yd shot, ha. In order to send the heavy bullet downrange with that much power, The 28 Nosler creates quite a kick. 1,776. With the slowest burn rate among Enduron powders, 8133 has burn properties similar to Hodgdon Retumbo. 300 Win Mag to 28 Nosler ? vs. .28 Nosler vs. 7mm RUM The U.S.A. hasn’t fully adopted the metric system, but our shooters and hunters have. (R) Bullet : .308, 180, Nosler PART SP 16331 Cartridge O.A.L. Have a ball Pard! I like the 'Old School" 200gr CnC bullets to 'thump" something hard, ha. 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