There are 32 ways to make your 4WD illegal, and overloading the roof racks is one of them! Does this rack fit a 2016 4x4 high roof sprinter with the 140" wheelbase with an A/C on top? When a 4WD is designed and built, the manufacturer gives it a maximum roof loading rating. I’d be very surprised if you had an issue with 200kg on the roof while stationary, but it would pay to check with Mitsubishi to see what they think. Hey There, just installed a new canopy and have been told the static weight is 100kg, so am I right to assume that the dynamic would be 50kg or even less?? A few are 150kg and I believe the 200’s are 200kg. Can I re-use my older roof rack setups? In most cases, the static weight capacity of a pallet will far exceed its dynamic capacity or edge-rackable capacity. Is Toyota saying that 120lbs is all that the roof can carry, OR are they saying that's all Toyotas crossrails will carry, OR i've heard the theory that that is dynamic load limit for when the vehicle is moving but that when its static (stationary) the roof can hold much more. Thanks for the wonderfully useful article. When you start thinking about roof top tents, one of the first questions that arises is whether or not the roof of your car can support it. Hi wondering about adding extra bars. Hit the brakes and that load comes onto the front rests. Even the light roof top tents are about 65kg. Then the pallet could be placed on a conveyor system or be moved around a warehouse by a forklift. Perhaps it’s harkening back to childhood and a love of treehouses—or deeper in our psyches, when … I reckon that’s the first time I’ve ever heard of any company quoting static or dynamic weights – normally its just assumed to be the latter. When the roof begins to buckle, subtract 10 pounds. There are two things you need to consider when looking at the amount of weight on your roof racks. of an evenly distributed product on the pallet. As well those are small screws holding the factory rack to the roof and roof sheetmetal tends to get banged up real easy these days. You’ll have less wind drag (so better fuel economy), less noise, a lower centre of gravity, more chance of fitting under car parks and trees and an easier time getting things down! A 04/06/2020, 1:46:00 PM Toyota rates the 4Runner roof with a factory rack at "Max load 165 lbs evenly distributed." Not exceeding the maximum roof loading rating. Unfortunately models that aren’t common run into all sorts of weird and wonderful issues like this, but I’m sure you’ll come to a resolution soon. I called Mitsubishi today and customer care said they’ll get back to me. Can a Front Runner rack support a roof top tent with 2 people, as well as cans of fuel and water? Some of my first choices were the Gobi Stealth Rack, BajaRack Utility (Flat) Rack with sunroof cut out, Front Runner Slimline 2 Roof Rack, and the Rhino-Rack Pioneer Platform roof rack. Another doubt is about how much of weight can the roof rack sustain when stationary? My Prado already has a roof railing but not the bars, do you think I should just get a normal roof bars or that wouldn’t support 65 kg dynamic and around 210 kg static? Yours. The 200 series Landcruiser roof carrying capacity is 200kg, for example. Just looking at fitting my 4WD with a roof tent, thanks for the explanations, it is helpful. Gobi Rack has this design and, from what I can tell, was very popular. 0 #036 - What is the weight capacity of a Honda Roof Rack? they are dynamic load ratings. My wife and I just bought a 2019 Outlander with the turbo diesel engine. If you want to know what your 4WD is designed to carry, have a look in your owners manual or contact your vehicle manufacturer. That same Patrol had the steel rack removed not long ago, and replaced with a top quality Tracklander aluminium one that weighed under 1/3 of the steel one. First off don’t buy a heavy roof top tent that the dynamic weight of your roof or roof system can’t handle. A good roof rack will have a similar maximum rating to the roof rating, so you probably won’t gain much, 3 months with a camper trailer, 4WD and toddler; the summary, Lake Argyle and the Bungles; amazing places in WA, Our Isuzu Dmax build for touring Australia, Our new Hybrid Camper; a Lifestyle Reconn R2, Why we moved from a soft floor to a hybrid camper trailer, 7 Amazing Camp Sites within 3 – 5 hours of Perth, Towing capacity; a simple guide to keep you legal, 20 things you should never do in a 4WD recovery. Several years ago we hit a nasty hole on a track out the back of Dwellingup in a 4WD with a cheap set of roof racks bolted on, and the force slid the whole arrangement forward about 200mm along the gutters. If you have more weight on the roof than what your vehicle manufacturer has set, your vehicle is not roadworthy and the insurance company has a valid reason to deny or reduce your claim. Also, if you’ve got any tips or questions, leave a comment below! 165 lbs limit - 40.2 lbs rack & accessories = 124.8 lbs available load capacity. However, it goes beyond this; you will have an on road rating, and an off road roof rack rating, which is usually 50 – 75% of the rated on road capacity. The static weight limit can be higher than the dynamic weight. I’ll quickly mention this, as it comes up regularly when discussing roof top tents. @MaximusThree ROOF RACK 900+ Pound Static Weight Limit & 300+ Pound…” I’ve lost count of the number of badly overloaded roof’s that I’ve seen while travelling around WA. Really need to work this out before I buy. For custom and unlisted vehicles it is up to the installer to determine the maximum weight for the given application. How easy is it to remove the JKU 1/2 Roof Rack Kit if I want to take off the hard top? Roof Racks vs Weight. Our 80 series racks are within 60mm, and the closer the better (except it is almost impossible to wash the roof!). First off don’t buy a heavy roof top tent that the dynamic weight of your roof or roof system can’t handle. If you are outside of this and you injure or kill someone, what do you think is going to happen? The manufacturer of the roof rack will give a load rating, when installed as per their instructions. Not sure if there’s a Facebook group or forums for those vehicles either; surely you aren’t the first person to do this with an Outlander. 417 Likes, 8 Comments - Gladiator Gang (@gladiator.gang) on Instagram: “Would you drive like this? This is the same for chassis damage through overloading. With a dynamic load, some outside factor causes the forces of the weight of the load to change. It represents the maximum permissible load that the rack / brackets can withstand when repeatedly in motion over a long period of time. I won’t bore you with the maths, but the static load, or the load when you are standing still, is roughly 10x this. I would say your thinking is correct, but the only way to find out for sure is to contact the OEM. First off don’t buy a heavy roof top tent that the dynamic weight of your roof or roof system can’t handle. There’s a roof rack weight limit for every single rack and set of bars sold, along with a set of conditions for their use. I find having a cage version all the way around fantastic, as it stops things moving forward and side to side. Can I mount your roof rack recommendations from your Buyer's Guide on a car with a panoramic roof? Great guide to learn more about roof racks. Dynamic Load The main difference between a static and dynamic load lies in the forces produced by the weight of an object. I reckon they might have their static/dynamic wording mixed up. It’s a big car. 2. Thanks a lot for sharing! Think carefully about how you spread the weight. The load rating of a roof system is less when your vehicle is dynamic compared to when you’re still, or static. The weight "recommended" by the roof rack manufacturer for the RR, has little bearing on this. Consider how much extra force 80kg of weight bouncing up and down would apply to the roof. Also say you have 90# on your roof static load. Hit a good speed bump or such and your load momentarily increases substantially over the 100# limit. If you are a passenger in a 4WD, try and hold your arms out and keep them there while you are bouncing around. For example, a pallet rated for a dynamic load of 2000 lbs means you can put up to 2000 lbs. A lot of 4WD’s have a huge amount of weight on the rear axle, and much less on the front. I have a Prado 150 – 2012 and I’m planing to buy a roof top tent weigh about 65kg. I've also been searching to no avail for the static weight limitation for the Ascent when attaching a Yakima LocknLoad directly to the side rails with the Yakima Timberline system. You can get lighter roof top tents than 65kg. It looks like the MOPAR rack is a cutter mount? I’m keen to know what racks you guys run, and what you use them for. KSJ08, nimby and Prime2357 like this. The dynamic load for the bars should not exceed 165lbs. What does the manufacturer say you can carry? Is Toyota saying that 120lbs is all that the roof can carry, OR are they saying that's all Toyotas crossrails will carry, OR i've heard the theory that that is dynamic load limit for when the vehicle is moving but that when its static (stationary) the roof can hold much more. I used my ob roof rack to carry two 14'+ kayaks for a season. The dynamic weight capacity for any roof rack that we suggest, should have a dynamic weight limit of 165 lbs or more. What is the load rating and weight limit of your roof rack? A rack’s load rating is a measurement of its weight capacity; thus, racks with higher load ratings will be able to handle heavier loads. We installed a Powerful 4×4 full length steel cage roof rack on a mates Patrol a few years back, and weighed it at at around 60kg. Interesting; lets see what Mitsubishi have to say. Great article and it’s opened my eyes, I now point at 4wd’s on the road and go “overloaded”. We’ve been seriously considering a roof top tent, however upon reading your article I checked the roof load capacity in the owner’s manual and it says 50kg. I need to be able to run an RTT. I checked the car’s actual manual and it actually says 80 KG. ... Click to expand... Start adding weight to your roof rack. I get the dynamic vs static weight argument but that still doesn’t tell me how to calculate the static weight. The ladder itself has a weight capacity of 320 lbs. With a dynamic load, some outside factor causes the forces of the weight of the load to change. On a dual cab Ute this often means on the cab instead of the canopy. So long as you are within the roof rack weight limit and vehicle manufacturers specifications, you won’t have an issue. I’m not really sure, asides from Outback Joe’s post as to how you calculate the difference, but it would be a lot, Interested in your comment “… and very few at 200kg (the new 200 Series Land Cruiser for example)”. Now when it comes to roof top tents the load rating you need to be aware of is both. In your case, Mitsubishi; they should be able to help you out, as they can come from the factory with their canopy. Steel that has been poorly painted will rust, and that ends up on the panels of your vehicle. So if your rack can handle a load, when driving, of 75kg, then it can handle 300kg when stationery. The rating given by the vehicle manufacturer is a dynamic rating, which means its meant for when you are bouncing around on a 4WD track. Static load rating measures the racks weight capacity when it is installed, while dynamic load rating measures its weight capacity when it is being rolled on its casters. Give Mitsubishi a call to confirm, but if its like most 4WD’s you can easily mount a roof top tent and have two adults in it, as long as you aren’t driving around! When static, the load remains constant and doesn't change over time. When static, the load remains constant and doesn't change over time. What are you planning on putting on the roof rack? Does this increase the load carrying capacity of the roof rack? . Aerodynamic in design, the 03-09 GX470 Aluminum Roof Rack for sale comes standard with 8 aluminum cross bars. There is a vast difference in quality between roof racks on 4WD’s. Data from the Rhino Rack site. The dynamic load limit is usually the one quoted by the supplier. 150 0 obj <>stream It’s important to have plenty of places to attach ratchet and occy straps. Static Load vs. Keep up the good work. Good on you for taking the time to look into it. Anything you can do to reduce the weight on your 4WD will benefit you. When considering a canopy for your 4WD, weight distribution is one of the most important things you should be thinking about. I spoke to someone recently who did the Canning Stock Route with a lot of weight up the top, and they could physically see the A pillars flexing under the stress. Cheers This is particularly the case with dual cabs, who start at a big disadvantage when it comes to load position relative to the rear axle. Dynamic Load The main difference between a static and dynamic load lies in the forces produced by the weight of an object. A roof rack obviously helps spread the weight across the car’s frame, as opposed to directly on the roof, but it doesn’t mean you can carry more stuff when the car is in motion. thoughts? You will not see any standard roof racks, camper shells, or common vehicle roofs rated for a dynamic rating of 450+lbs. Outback Joe has written an interesting post on that very topic – check it out here – https://outbackjoe.com/macho-divertissement/macho-articles/roof-loading-and-roof-top-tents/. 100kg on the roof equates to a massive amount of force every time you bounce up, down and side to side. thoughts? Whether you're planning your next overlanding trip or just need a solid rack system for your weekend gear, we've got options for your 2007-2017 Jeep Wrangler 2 Door with the Factory Hard Top or Soft Top. So basically while driving, at-most I can put 220lbs of weight ("dynamic weight") on the roof rack. Asides from a lot of paint removed from the gutters and a bit of damaged pride, life continued. But still doesn’t mention static load capacity. It’s almost impossible, and your roof cops it way worse than that. What is the load capacity of my Thule roof rack? The 80kg will be a dynamic roof loading – when the vehicle isn’t moving you will be able to add more weight than that. Suggestions? Whispbar removable roof racks are the quietest roof bars available and can be moved between cars using the latest smart foot technology. This is because, in a static load, the force of the load on the platform remains constant. Look at the welds too; they should be smooth, have decent penetration (not look like the weld is sitting on top of the metal) and no holes or abnormalities. Roof rack load limits are generally reflected in the way they mount to the roof and distribute the load. Not very good when its mounted to a 4WD! If you’re using a roof rack or cargo carrier, you need to subtract its weight from your total rating. If seen some roof racks that have the bottom some 150 – 200mm off the roof of your 4WD. It’s just a pain that I can’t find anywhere the owner’s manual for my Holden Frontera from 1999 and with 2 doors. If they are the genuine roof racks, find out what they are rated to. A typical Whispbar or Yakima roof carrying solution consists of: • A vehicle roof (obvious, right?) The blame always goes to someone, and if you caused the death of someone through your negligence (by overloading your roof racks) you could be in a terrible situation. mynameistory, Feb 13, 2020 #22. Something that is often overlooked is the weight of your roof rack itself. It’s best to keep the tent as low as possible; avoid having extra railing unless absolutely necessary. I’m surprised the limit is that low. A bump just beyond what your vehicle will handle can lay it on its side, and when you have over 100kg on the roof that happens so much easier. Now when it comes to roof top tents the load rating you need to be aware of is both. endstream endobj startxref When you are travelling on rough tracks, side angles are dangerous. Suggestions? Car and rack dynamic weight capacity: This measures the ability to support that tent weight while you're driving. I contacted Holden, hopefully they will get back to me! In fact, just the opposite. Seat Covers; are you looking after your 4WD’s interior? Noticed the paint bubbling up around the front pads, so pulled the racks. endstream endobj 129 0 obj <>/Metadata 18 0 R/Outlines 35 0 R/PageLayout/OneColumn/Pages 126 0 R/StructTreeRoot 48 0 R/Type/Catalog>> endobj 130 0 obj <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/StructParents 0/Tabs/S/Type/Page>> endobj 131 0 obj <>stream For this reason, I always recommend a quality built aluminium roof rack; they are substantially lighter and just as strong. Also it’s is currently fitted with a set of Rola rack rated at 60kg (which I assume it’s per pair), it should be the heaviest I can get knowing that not much brand are making the specific roof rack for this model (it has fixed mounting points and I believe I can fit a set of 3 cause it has a removable plastic canopy at the back so they supplied 3 different mounting points position). Yep, lets say you have 150kg on a roof rack and roll your 4WD on the edge of a sand dune. If you, like myself, have a a family and a few kids running around, I’m sure you’ll agree that going on extended trips and weekend camp outs are way different compared to when you’re traveling solo or with your mates. Told me 100kg static load. 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